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Ask Rusty: Have I Saved Social Security Money by Claiming at 62?
Dear Rusty: I had to start collecting Social Security (SS) at age 62, and I am 75 now. I believe that in the last 13 years I have saved the Social Security Administration (SSA) money, so I do not know why I cannot draw my full benefits now. If I had started drawing at 65 […]
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Dear Rusty: I had to start collecting Social Security (SS) at age 62, and I am 75 now. I believe that in the last 13 years I have saved the Social Security Administration (SSA) money, so I do not know why I cannot draw my full benefits now.
If I had started drawing at 65 at $1,200 per month, then I would have drawn $14,400 per year. Instead, I received $680 per month from 62 to 75, or $8,160 per year, or about $106,000 over 13 years. Compare that to the age 65 amount of $14,400 per year for 10 years, which is $144,000. So, by claiming at 62, I have saved the government over $38,000 by age 75. It would make seniors lives so much easier if they could draw full Social Security at 75 years old, after getting only part of their SS.
Signed: Second-guessing
Dear Second-guessing: The difference between benefits claimed at various ages causes many to reflect, as you have done, about what might have been had you waited longer to claim. But there is an error in your calculations. If your age 62 monthly benefit is $680, your age 65 monthly benefit would have been about $845, not $1,200. Thus, by age 75 you would have collected about $101,400 by claiming at 65, versus the $106,000 you have received by claiming at age 62. In other words, you still would not have broken even had you claimed at age 65.
The SSA says that it doesn’t matter when you claim — it says that if you claim early your payments will be smaller, but you’ll get more of them. Where SSA’s argument falls apart is when life expectancy is longer. Our experience is that if you wait until your full retirement age (FRA) to claim (which is age 66 in your case), versus claiming at age 62, you will collect the same amount of total money by about age 78. In other words, the “breakeven age” for waiting until FRA to claim is about 78. So, you will reach your personal “breakeven age” in about 2 ½ years (at age 78). And this is precisely why we encourage everyone to understand their life expectancy when deciding when to claim Social Security — those who expect to live longer will, indeed, get more SS money if they delay claiming.
Your benefit is determined by your age when you claim, and if you claim before your FRA your monthly amount is permanently reduced. If you claimed at age 62 and your monthly amount was $680, then in the four years until you reached age 66 (your FRA) you would have received about $32,640. If you had, instead, waited until your FRA to claim, your benefit at age 66 would have been about $906 per month. Collecting $906 a month (at 66) versus $680 per month (at 62) would make your breakeven age about 78. If you claimed at age 65 instead of 62, your breakeven age would have been about a year earlier (77).
So, have you saved the SSA money? Up to this point, you have not. Since you claimed at age 62, you have collected about $680/month for 13 years until you were 75 (or about $106,000). If you had waited until age 65 to claim you would have, instead, collected about $101,400 —in other words you have received more, so far, by claiming at age 62. But that will change when you reach 77 (your breakeven age, had you claimed at 65). Starting at age 77, you will have received less in cumulative lifetime benefits because you claimed at age 62. Which, again, is why — at the AMAC Foundation’s Social Security Advisory Service — we encourage everyone to consider life expectancy when deciding when to take Social Security benefits. Of course, there are other factors too, not the least of which is financial need, but life expectancy is key. And since the benefit you get when you claim is permanent (except for annual cost-of-living adjustments), deciding when to claim Social Security is a decision that affects a lifetime.
Russell Gloor is a national Social Security advisor at the AMAC Foundation, the nonprofit arm of the Association of Mature American Citizens (AMAC). The 2.4-million-member AMAC says it is a senior advocacy organization. Send your questions to: ssadvisor@amacfoundation.org.
Author’s note: This article is intended for information purposes only and does not represent legal or financial guidance. It presents the opinions and interpretations of the AMAC Foundation’s staff, trained, and accredited by the National Social Security Association (NSSA). The NSSA and the AMAC Foundation and its staff are not affiliated with or endorsed by the Social Security Administration or any other governmental entity.
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ANDRO selected for U.S. Navy SeaPort NxG prime contract award
ROME, N.Y. — ANDRO Computational Solutions, LLC this week announced that it has been selected for a prime contract award from SeaPort Next Generation (NxG), the U.S. Navy Virtual SYSCOM Commanders’ integrated approach to contracting for professional support services. ANDRO, based at Griffiss Business & Technology Park in Rome, is a provider of advanced software-defined
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ROME, N.Y. — ANDRO Computational Solutions, LLC this week announced that it has been selected for a prime contract award from SeaPort Next Generation (NxG), the U.S. Navy Virtual SYSCOM Commanders’ integrated approach to contracting for professional support services.
ANDRO, based at Griffiss Business & Technology Park in Rome, is a provider of advanced software-defined radio products including radio frequency machine learning (RFML) and artificial intelligence (AI) technologies for wireless communications and networking.
SeaPort NxG encompasses professional support on behalf of multiple Navy detachments and centers that include the Naval Air Systems Command, Naval Facilities Engineering Systems Command, Naval Sea Systems Command, and more.
The SeaPort NxG portfolio has a listed value of $4 billion per year over a 10-year contract life span and could be as high as $50 billion over its full term, consisting of indefinite-delivery indefinite-quantity (IDIQ) multi-agency contracts, according to an ANDRO release. The Navy estimates that the contract will procure as much as $5 billion worth of services annually.
The SeaPort-NxG IDIQ contract covers a range of functional areas that include engineering services, system engineering, safety and process engineering support, research and development, software engineering, and more. Under this IDIQ, ANDRO will focus on delivering engineering, technical, and research services for the development of engineering prototypes and production-ready capabilities at scale in the AI/wireless communications and RFML space.
SeaPort NxG’s electronic procurement of technical, engineering, and other professional services represents a key strategy to meeting the Department of Navy contracting needs by preapproving a large and diverse community of contractors via a competitive rolling-admissions process, per the release. Once approved, contractors bid on work, individually or in teaming arrangements. SeaPort NxG provides an efficient and effective means of contracting for professional-support services and enhancing small-business participation.
“The award further cements ANDRO’s position among an elite corps of ‘best-in-class’ government contractors from across the nation that are ready to respond to the Navy’s needs and complex service requirements related to AI, advanced wireless communications, and dynamic spectrum sharing among other areas,” ANDRO President Andrew Drozd contended in the release. “Our contributions will assist in assuring that the Navy is well postured to sustain information dominance and spectrum superiority during these challenging geopolitical times.”
Drozd credits the SeaPort NxG win to Fred Frantz, ANDRO’s chief operations officer and capture manager.
Frantz said, “The SeaPort NxG rolling admissions round II solicitation led to a considerable number of competitive proposals. To be among a select group of companies to win a prime position under this vehicle further expands ANDRO’s already tremendous advantage in supporting Navy customers with our leading-edge mission-critical technologies.”
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KeyBank parent names Family Wealth business leader
NEW YORK, N.Y. — KeyCorp (NYSE: KEY), parent company of KeyBank, announced that Robert Weiss has joined as head of its Key Family Wealth business unit. He will be tasked with growing Key’s ultra-high net worth client segment. He is based in New York City and reports to Key Wealth President Joe Skarda. Weiss brings
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NEW YORK, N.Y. — KeyCorp (NYSE: KEY), parent company of KeyBank, announced that Robert Weiss has joined as head of its Key Family Wealth business unit.
He will be tasked with growing Key’s ultra-high net worth client segment. He is based in New York City and reports to Key Wealth President Joe Skarda.
Weiss brings to his role more than 20 years of senior leadership experience in wealth management, according to a KeyCorp news release. He joins Key from First Republic, now part of J.P. Morgan Wealth Management. There, as regional business leader across New York, New Jersey and Connecticut, Weiss was responsible for overall growth, product strategy, and business-development planning.
Prior to First Republic, Weiss worked at SunTrust, where he established and led the Northeast Private Wealth Division. He also held leadership positions at Alliance Bernstein and was global head of Advice Lab for J.P. Morgan, where he led a team of wealth-management subject-matter experts to create and deliver intellectual capital to clients. Weiss earned an MBA in finance from the University at Buffalo.
Key Family Wealth, the multi-family office division of Key Private Bank, is one of the largest and oldest multi-family offices in the country — managing about $23 billion in assets under management.
KeyCorp’s roots trace back nearly 200 years to Albany. Headquartered in Cleveland, Ohio, Key is one of the nation’s largest bank-based financial-services companies, with assets of about $190 billion as of Sept. 30, 2024. KeyBank is ranked No. 2 by deposit market share in the 16-county Central New York region.
Cayuga Health of Ithaca, Arnot Health of Elmira affiliate as Centralus Health
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Syracuse attorney among five elevated to Barclay Damon partnership
SYRACUSE, N.Y. — A lawyer based in the Syracuse headquarters is among five attorneys Barclay Damon LLP has elevated to partner at the firm. Ross Greenky is a member of the firm’s labor & employment practice area. The additional four attorneys elevated to partner are in the Albany or Buffalo offices, the law firm said.
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SYRACUSE, N.Y. — A lawyer based in the Syracuse headquarters is among five attorneys Barclay Damon LLP has elevated to partner at the firm.
Ross Greenky is a member of the firm’s labor & employment practice area. The additional four attorneys elevated to partner are in the Albany or Buffalo offices, the law firm said.
Greenky concentrates his practice on counseling employers regarding workplace issues, and he routinely handles audits and investigations from the New York State Department of Labor and the U.S. Department of Labor, as well as the New York City Department of Consumer Affairs.
Greenky also litigates employment-related matters in federal and state courts and before the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission and the New York State Division of Human Rights.
Based in Syracuse, Barclay Damon has about 300 attorneys with additional offices in Albany, Boston, Buffalo, New Haven, New York City, Rochester, Washington D.C., and Toronto.
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